Has the internet made the WTS so fearful that they need to make changes? Are they changing to become more mainstream? Will they implement more and more changes since most people have the internet and can look up their false history and predictions?
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Has the internet caused all the changes the WTS has implemented?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhas the internet made the wts so fearful that they need to make changes?
are they changing to become more mainstream?
will they implement more and more changes since most people have the internet and can look up their false history and predictions?.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 04-27-08 WT Study (YIELDING)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 04-27-08 wt study (march 15, 2008, pages 3-7 )(balanced).
review comments will be in red.
q 18. why is a yielding spirit appropriate within the family?
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JEHOVAH ..................................... JESUS
FAITHFUL DISCREET SLAVE
DISTRICT OVERSEER
CIRCUIT OVERSEER
PRESIDING OVERSEER
LOCAL ELDERS
MINISTERIAL SERVANTS
MEN
WOMAN
CHILDREN
What the study really is trying to say...........whatever the decisions are.........the person above you is always right.
How many debates are there in the congregations? Why does the group above you always get their way? What about fear of the group above you? Why doesn't the WTS let other people do as they think is best?
BLONDIE I always appreciate the work,time,and effort you put into the study articles!
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Around what age do most Witnesses leave the organization?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy congregation had 85 members ten years ago.
today,there are only 46. the ones that left the organization were mostly between 18-25 years old.
i haven't seen many middle-aged or elderly leave.
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My congregation had 85 members ten years ago. Today,there are only 46. The ones that left the organization were mostly between 18-25 years old.
I haven't seen many middle-aged or elderly leave. They put too much time and effort into the organization.......and where will they go ......the WTS is the only true organization!
Do you think as you get older it is harder to leave? What age group leave the organization the most?
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-20-08 WT Study (Presence)
by blondie in"what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system things?"--matt.
q) 6 what does revelation chapter 12 help us to understand about christ's presence?
q) 8, 9. who would recognize the sign of christs presence and understand its meaning?.
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10. Previously, this journal has explained that in the first century, "this generation" mentioned at Matthew 24:34 meant "the contemporaneous generation of unbelieving Jews."* That explanation seemed reasonable because all other recorded uses that Jesus made of the term "generation" had a negative connotation, and in most cases, Jesus used a negative adjective, such as "wicked," to describe the generation. (Matt. 12:39; 17: 17; Mark 8:38) Thus, it was felt that in the modern-day fulfillment, Jesus was referring to the wicked "generation" of unbelievers who would see both the features that would characterize "the conclusion of the system of things" (syn.te'lei.a) and the system's end (te'los).
11. It is true that when Jesus used the word "generation" negatively, he was speaking to or about the wicked people of his day. But was that necessarily true of his statement recorded at Matthew 24:34? Recall that four of Jesus' disciples had approached him "privately." (Matt. 24:3) Since Jesus did not use negative qualifiers when speaking to them about "this generation," the apostles would no doubt have understood that they and their fellow disciples were to be part of the "generation" that would not pass away "until all these things [would] occur."Blondie....another great job with many great questions on your part!
Notice the wording they use to finagle out of what they have taught for years! You only need to stand back a little and see that the ''light'' just went out. Either you see it or you don't.
10.''That explanation seemed reasonable because all other recorded uses that Jesus made of the term "generation" had a negative connotation, and in most cases, Jesus used a negative adjective, such as "wicked," to describe the generation. (Matt. 12:39; 17: 17; Mark 8:38) Thus,it was felt that in the modern-day fulfillment, Jesus was referring to the wicked "generation" of unbelievers who would see both the features that would characterize "the conclusion of the system of things" (syn.te'lei.a) and the system's end (te'los).''
11. It is true that when Jesus used the word "generation" negatively, he was speaking to or about the wicked people of his day. But was that necessarily true of his statement recorded at Matthew 24:34? Recall that four of Jesus' disciples had approached him "privately." (Matt. 24:3) Since Jesus did not use negative qualifiers when speaking to them about "this generation," the apostles would no doubt have understood that they and their fellow disciples were to be part of the "generation" that would not pass away "until all these things [would] occur." -
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-13-08 WT Study (Imitate)
by blondie injesus said to imitate him not god.
in the us the only increase comes from immigrants.. q (6) what can we do if we cannot move to where the need for kingdom proclaimers is greater?
imitate jesus' attitude toward people.
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Blondie
Notice the loaded language used through out the study:
missionary ....evangelizer.... declare good news.... proclaimer of the good news.... Kingdom publishers ....evangelizing spirit ....Kingdom preachers ....Kingdom proclaimers....experienced pioneers....missionary assignments.... house-to-house ministry....accomplish our work as evangelizers....successful evangelizers.
The only way to imitate Jesus according to the WTS is to preach the good news. As you stated and never mentioned in this study :
(James 2:15-16) 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it?
Didn't Jesus feed his hungry followers as well as preaching to them? (Mark 6:34-44)
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Why don't Elders who are sick and elderly ever step down?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inin my 35 years as a witness,there have been many elders in my congregation who were old,sick,tired,weak,and could hardly walk.
they had a hard time reading the material,couldn't remember names, and sometimes forgot where they were in their reading material and talks.they never stepped down as elders.. what are the reasons why most never step down?
can they be asked to step down because of age?
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In my 35 years as a Witness,there have been many Elders in my congregation who were old,sick,tired,weak,and could hardly walk. They had a hard time reading the material,couldn't remember names, and sometimes forgot where they were in their reading material and talks.They never stepped down as Elders.
What are the reasons why most never step down? Can they be asked to step down because of age?
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THE MEMORIAL MEANS NOTHING!
by minimus inthe truth is it---it's all about appearances.
it's all a fraud.
you are expected to "observe" a "ceremony".
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I went to the Memorial last Saturday. (doing it to keep peace in my family) It took me 1 hour to get to the Kingdom Hall. They had ''nerdy'' parking attendants directing traffic and parking. Walked in and 3 different congregations still couldn't fill up the place. Everyone was dressed to kill. No new people. Just family and friends. Attendents sitting in the front waiting to pass the bread and wine.
The opening prayer lasted at least 5 minutes. The same scriptures are used year after year. 15 minutes was used to remind everyone on why they should not partake of the emblems.
The scripture on Jesus praying before he passd the bread was read. Another 5 minute prayer. The scripture on Jesus praying before he passed the wine was read. Another 5 minute prayer.
10 minutes was spent telling all the new ones what meetings the Witnesses have and all the times they are held. The closing prayer was another 5 minutes.
This is a ''sales pitch'' meeting for the WTS. It's a meeting to remind everyone that the are slaves of the WTS. The Memorial just gives the WTS power to control its members since ''they'' partake of these emblems.
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Happy 8th Birthday JWD !
by Simon ini'm just sat working on a new version of the forum (to bring it more up-to-date and make it better for non-ie browsers) and notice the date on the first post of the backup database that i'm working against ... 23 march 2000.. i can't believe it's been 8 years !
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thank you to everyone who has participated over the years and helped keep this place alive to help others coming out of the wts.
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Simon
Thank you for this wonderful site! This is the only Jehovah's Witness forum I really enjoy.
I came to this site because the topics go all over the place. This site exposes the WTS for what they really are.....a book publishing corporation hideing in the name of religion. We need to continue this fight exposing them of all their lies and false concepts.
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Blondies Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-23-08 WT Study (Constantly)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 03-23-08 wt study (february 15, 2008 wt, pages 3-7)(constantly).
review comments will be in red and in parentheses.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
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3 A soldier usually wielded his sword with his right hand, leaving that side unprotected by the shield held in his left hand. Yet, he was protected if a friend fought him on his right. If we keep Jehovah in mind and do his will, he will protect us. So let us see how, considering Bible accounts can strengthen our faith so that we "keep Jehovah always before [us]."Byington. (a Bible translation owned by the WTS that uses "Jehovah" in the OT extensively, but not in the NT)
Will he protect me from: ageing,dying,cancer,illness,poverty,disease,drowning,car accident,plane crash,mugging,robbery,suicide,mental illness,loss of job,divorce,and many other bad things that happen in our everyday lives?
I see alot of people that don't keep Jehovah in mind and do his will live better and more meaningful lives. I see no extra benefits that his followers receive. Only the WTS benefit from all its members toil! DO MORE IN THE PREACHING WORK AND JEHOVAH WILL PROTECT YOU(while we sell off all the properties and settle lawsuits)!!!!!!!
THANK YOU BLONDIE!
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Will there be 4 meeting days this week? Or,will one be cancelled?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe memorial is this saturday evening march 22,2008. will they cancel any of the meetings or will they still have the book study,ministry school,and sunday meeting?
isn't that alot of meetings in one week?
now i know why i rarely attend!
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The Memorial is this Saturday evening March 22,2008. Will they cancel any of the meetings or will they still have the Book Study,Ministry School,and Sunday meeting? Isn't that alot of meetings in one week? Now I know why I rarely attend!